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I read a lot of fics where these two have serious trouble finding new jobs, and that’s fine. But while I don’t know exactly how academia functions, I think they’d be in very high demand as guest lecturers at every single major university on the planet. They’re both at the cutting edge of fascinating new fields and they both made amazing new discoveries.

These lectures would extremely informative and extremely entertaining/disastrous. No matter how much they like each other, they’re still them.

Aki, care to weigh in?

OK, as someone in academia, they would have absolutely no problem finding academic jobs. It’s a rough market out there for people without celebrity and without status/cred (i.e., young academics) but academia was specifically built to accommodate people like them, the famous people who did something real-world significant and now need to lecture for a while. If post-post-apocalyptic academia works anything like it, they’ll have cushy tenured jobs before you can say bob’s your uncle.

THAT BEING SAID.

Usually it’s a rather big deal to get a joint hire—two tenure track jobs at one go—and it’s always for married academics. BUT I WOULD BET SERIOUS MONEY THAT THESE TWO JUST BULLIED THEIR WAY THROUGH. Like, probably a Dean was like, “—so we can talk funding packages in th—” and Newt (because I’m imagining NYU at the mo’, this process would work differently if Hermann was bullying them into an Oxbridge position) would interrupt and be like, “Yeaaaaaah, I’m gonna need two packages.“

And the Dean would be like, slow blink, “I didn’t realize you had a spouse.”

And Newt would shout something like, “YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH,“ and then there would be a lot of shouting and door-slamming and Hermann would call later and be like, “yes, let’s talk about the funding package in the spring. Also, we’re definitely not married.” And then he’d cough politely. “But we will only need one office.“ Another polite cough. “And we’ll be co-teaching all of our courses.”

Reblogging this back over here because I have to look at this commentary

This take is great.

I think what’s more interesting to me with the “they can’t find jobs” after is the possibility that they have dozens and dozens of offers – but they don’t necessarily have the motivation to take them.

Newt’s work would certainly be more supported in the private sector – more funding, no IRB process, no pressure to publish instead of working, fewer barriers to interdisciplinary studies. Hermann’s work is more suited to academia, sure, but few departments would be able to afford the sort of imaging software he’s been working with.

Andth of them have real reason to be leery of doing science in US academia, especially, because it’s often dependent on federal funding. The government hardly supported them when it came down to it.

And psychologically, they’re not necessarily in a good place to go into dealing with committees and teaching. Plus, I think they’d be offended by anything short of a tenure-track position, if not guaranteed tenure. The idea of them willingly entering a rat race after everything they’ve been through… doesn’t necessarily jive.

(I personally like a Newt interpretation that’s extremely protective of his work and paranoid about his potential exploitation.)

i’m screaming because most of this is pretty much a literal reconstruction of Designations Congruent with Things